They create these scrapes where theyre communicating with each other with scent. Less than a year later I found a scat on the swamp range and I was working at the time with a fellow at the Michigan wildlife habitat Federation. M from Tree Hill author series presenting Diane lay back. The cougar is also commonly known as mountain lion, puma, mountain cat, catamount, or panther. Do you get a lot of these these these things that end up being hoaxes. Since then, there have been a handful of confirmed mountain. I came to a stop and it was and I've seen a lot of bobcats in my time and I just came to a stop it was just sort of confused about what I was seeing. Were there any differences between these two that we could have noticed right off. However the scarring on the trees did not and the angles were off. Okay. The western mountain lion lives in a more of a grassland open area now so to blend in with a very lighted situation here in the Northeast we are very shadowy dark situation because of the forest and our cats wear a darker brownish reddish color than what they were and they were also smaller than what the western mountain lion is. You know I think it's there's a lady Holly Ernst out in California who has done a lot of the genotyping of mountain lions in Northern California the ones that are of course most people have heard about taking down hikers bikers etc. It was not a bobcat. It's listed as population of least concern. Support for an age PR comes from you our listeners. For me as a person who's handled many bobcats and looked at many pictures Bobcat the White chin Bobcat right off is what comes out to me and then the black the the roughs on our Bobcats we'll have sometimes have black fringes on them. So I want to start the program with a comment from someone who is not in the studio with us today. I'm sorry go ahead you're on the air. When the federal Endangered Species Act came along, the Eastern Cougar (Puma concolor cougar), the subspecies of Mountain Lon ti hat orgi inally occurred If it's someone that has an illegal captive animal that is accustomed to humans those leave a lot of evidence because they want to go around humans to find food meaning they're used to being fed by humans. Theres tracks everywhere. You need a permit to have that. PublishedNovember 16, 2018 at 6:16 AM EST. They're the generalists that made it through both the arrival of the Clovis people with their with their spears and then the Europeans with their guns. Thanks for calling. It doesn't happen as much anymore. It's bigger but bigger and better world. A middle school in Manchester, New Hampshire has sent out an alert after a mountain lion was spotted. These were normal everyday folks. Peter Biello: There have been several alleged sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. There's no logic for why they'd be listed as an endangered species. I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. I didn't see him online. So so they're just a very resilient species and they're pretty they're pretty neat. So I certainly can't dispute anything that they said there's no evidence for me to go by to verify or say what my thoughts are on the situation. Our guests today Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in. Home; Archivos. Mountain lion or cat running across. Peter Biello: We at this e-mailed comment from Michael. This animal, IMHO, was probably live caught as an adult from the wild and brought to the . The states never denied mountain lions are here, and theyve never admitted mountain lions are here. The one confirmed case, sometimes referred to as the " Connecticut Mountain Lion " happened in June 2011 when an SUV struck and killed a cougar in Milford. The species that once inhabited the Northeast, known as the eastern mountain lion, is now extinct. We'll be right back. I saw the tail end of a literally from behind the shoulder The Long Tail mountain lion crossing the highway going from Password to often Village downtown. The last wild mountain lion in New Hampshire may have been killed in the White Mountains in 1885. What kind of animal is that. John thanks. Tell us your story. If you go on YouTube and search mount lion Pat you can see people patent their hundred pound kiddie like its regular mascot cat. It was really muscular looking cat I mean is that like a side angle to me. Have you seen one. Peter Biello: Well yeah. 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That location they just described we had two or three Bobcats radio collared on just off the runway in Laconia airport. Peter Biello: I did mention four feet nose to tail would be kind of small for a mountain lion. Fish and Game looked into the labs to have them confirm the information in the reports which the labs did not. In recent years, number of reported cougar sightings has never dropped below double digits, according to data from New Hampshire's Fish & Game Department from 2010 to present day. So if you were to ask me has a mountain lion ever passed through New Hampshire and been spotted by somebody who wasnt able to get hard evidence? Id personally be willing to say "probably, yes.". Fish and Wildlife Service decided all of the cougars, pumas, and mountain lions in the country are actually the same species, and that species hasnt had a breeding population anywhere near the Northeast for at least 70 years. Sam Evans Brown. It's not an emerging endangered species no work no there are there are populations in specific states so the Florida panther is is an endangered species that sub population is in fact listed under the Endangered Species Act. The American Lion The Saber tooth Tiger and this was the one that survived. I had a resident in New Hampshire tell me a story of a mountain lion in the 1960s where a person who would come summer in New Hampshire and then live in a different part of the country in the winter had a trailer that was housing his mount line. So it's six months of a large large predatory animal that moves great distances on the landscape that is not known if it went northeast west Salt and how many circles it did. Thank you very much for being here. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. Good morning guys. Patrick Tate: Yes. Why are there so many false positives? That's pretty elaborate. And then just up behind it you know at about 11 o'clock on one side and whatever that would be on the other side it's black. And they were using all the habitat. Somewhere the way they travel the things they do they're going to leave evidence. Gotcha, so the Deep State is suppressing mountain lion news in order to prop up New Hampshire tourism? We rely on readers like you to support the local, national, and international coverage on this website. But you can continue the conversation on Facebook or at our Web site and HP Borg. It all used to be based on measurable physical traits color, skull size, paw size, etc but now its based on whether an animal can be shown to be genetically distinct from others. So that did it for me. And I just said I saw I saw they from behind the shoulder all the way past the long tail. Peter Biello: Give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 you can also send us an email exchange at an HP morgue. Caller: Yeah. There was a lot of DNA evidence. Can we go to the site. Do they travel. Sam Evans-Brown has been working for New Hampshire Public Radio since 2010, when he began as a freelancer. I was at the Sentinel as a reporter there for about four years and during that time I probably wrote close to a half dozen stories or so on this topic including a lengthy feature at one point that in which I spoke to several people from around the banana region claimed to have seen mountain lions that at one time or another. But I was riding a mountain bike not far from my house. Peter Biello: Yeah well what do you think Pat is. Peter Biello: We got an e-mail question from Robert in Epsom who asks are sightings or encounters with these big cats less dangerous here where they're passing through than out west where those same mountain lines might be establishing territory Rick. And so a mountain lion is actually quite large right. There's no attraction. John Holt's ideas were at first dismissed but he refused to be silent. Patrick Tate: It's wow interesting that you brought this up because I've had people report I saw cardamom. Rick van de Poll: Yes. However, dispersing western mountain lions have left evidence as close as Connecticut, Massachusetts and New York. The exchange is a production of New Hampshire Public Radio. For instance, Floridas wildlife officials have a similar ghost cat: the black panther. Peter Biello: Well Mike thanks very much for sharing your story. We'll hear from her periodically through the show. The engineers Dan Colgan our senior producer is Allan Grimm. I mean it wasn't your idea. Rick van de Poll: Oh yeah absolutely. You know perhaps poke around where you saw it and see if you can find a track. Rick van de Poll: Absolutely. Give today. If it's just in the middle of a greenfield you can't prove anything. The scientific name for the catamount is Puma concolor. The females disperse a shorter range and once they find a vacant home range they stay in that location and live there. I don't see the hoaxes anymore at that level. support for an HBO who comes from you our listener Sam from advanced in you a local New Hampshire nonprofit specializing in college student loans and student refinancing options. And it was unmistakable. So I hate the idea that there's some sort of upward you know downward pressure from the bosses saying Don't you know don't tell about the mountain lions because it'll scare away the tourists. Give today. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. So. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. In Vermont, it was 1881. The next week, on June 11, the cat was hit and killed by an SUV on the Wilbur Cross Parkway in Milford. Osga's group of volunteers sent hair samples. Thanks for your call. Love hearing these stories. There'd be there'd be all sorts of you know basically a lot of hassle required if that were to happen. Author of The last woman in the forest on Saturday July 13th at 7 p.m. at Warner town hall Warner historical dawg. Patrick Tate: In theory it's a passing ball of a court and it goes wherever the bottom Ball wants to go. There's never, ever, ever, ever been a documented case of a black mountain lion. Kansas officials think a mountain lion recently roamed through Shawnee County. So we're fixated on natural but there's other possibilities. The trouble with accepting every reported sighting as a confirmed mountain lion is that there are so many mistaken identifications. Long before NASA was asked to put a man on the moon one engineer had already figured out how to get there. There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. So I just brought up the bobcat thing because the location is fascinating to me that that that location we have Bobcats existing but that location we have a mountain lion report because it's a developed area and which brings me back to earlier what I had said it's a bouncing ball. Caller: Hey guys how you doing. Part II. Pat ruse and he was sampling doing DNA samples from cats in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. So take care of this problem. And I can recall its information but I can't confirm or verify anything. And I think this is a really interesting story for a couple of reasons one is that it proves what Pat was saying which that basically from New York state where its traces was really picked up on a game camera around Lake George all the way down to Connecticut there was numerous. You treat it as if it's a sincere situation. Almost all species disperse greater distances than females. And listeners this has been a lively conversation we're sorry we didn't get to all the the e-mailed comments and the phone calls your stories are appreciated even if we didn't get a chance to hear them today. It was determined that Mountain Lion came from the Dakotas across the Northern part of our country . That's too big for Bobcat. Rick van de Poll: 80 90. Sue Morse: First and foremost if you have color or if you could see details of color look at the front of the face around the Pumas muzzle the muzzle itself is pure white. Peter Biello: And Carl before you continue I think Patrick Tate just give me a second. And maybe it's a no holds barred nostalgia for a better world a wild or Fuller world not a world that's constrained by our boundaries and our taxes and our highways. They're just moving around freely. Are there other powers that be worried that scary mountain lions will scare off people from camping in New Hampshire. I'm gonna send you a letter that we researched this report and we spoke with those labs and the lab wrote in their letter to us that they could only say that Scott contained white Tea Party fur and that they could not say what deposited the scout because it's far too degraded listeners we'd love to hear from you about your mountain lion sightings if you have seen one or if you if you think you have give us a call we'd love to hear your story 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. So so it is possible in Maine to still to to to have one but you have to be sort of professional handler as it were. SYCAMORE, Ill. (AP) A mountain lion that was struck and killed last weekend along a northern Illinois highway will be analyzed by biologists seeking to uncover the rare animal's origins, state . Today on the exchange we discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. So what those ranges. 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