On every one I replaced the wheelsets with 33" Kadee wheels. I could ask you 25 questions about your cars andtrackand still not have a good answer for you. By todays standards they . No 72 Khaki Drill - Matt 2.69. Close, maybe, Really correct, no. . The address in the header of this message is deliberately bogus tofoil address-harvesters. Rivarossi 1920 era passenger cars Thanks for your quick response. I just wanted to know how these cars are. For those, I used sheet styrene to create interior walls and partitions, and added RIX/PikeStuff seats'. I was lucky enough to obtain a couple of sets of Rivarossi passenger cars from there last year of production. really, they roll great. If I add enought weight will they stay on the rails? Always enjoyable seeing passenger car topics popping up. of the Black River Transfer & Terminal R.R. They won't handle 17 3/4 inch curves. These sets are of very good quality and I was very happy to obtain them. if not, you can always use them to upgrade some freight cars. Most of them are made to negotiate smaller radii. 60' cars. It takes an iron man to play with a toy iron horse. manage your account online and more! If so, sounds great. These HO scale cars can run on a radius as small as 18 inches allowing them to run on compact layouts. They are decent looking although not prototypical. Rivarossi used to put out two 4 car passenger sets. I believe Chicago Northwestern prototype. If anyone wants I can share some pictures but I won't worry about it otherwise. $60.00 5% off + $11.30 shipping. Picture Information. . All the cars date from the 1920's. Passenger ; View all; Dioramas & Buildings Open/close sub . I will look to add a single car of each style tothe Fast Freight Express that we are assembling. Did you back 'em up too? May your flanges always stay BETWEEN the rails. This item was produced exclusively for The Western Depot. As far as the Sleepers, Diners and Observations, I could be wrong, but I believe that the 60' passenger cars were more commuter and branch line use, where you wouldn't see Sleepers, Diners and Observations, like you would on a mainline passenger train. Rivarossi & Custom HO Scale Passenger Cars [5], Passenger Car Interior KIT for the IHC/Rivarossi Corrugated-Side Observation Car. I looked at these cars with interest. This is a unit I metalized and weathered. Come join the discussion about brands, various scales, repairs, storage, displays, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Others may vary. Bought my set from Walthers 18 months ago, "limited quantity" etc, but no problems, they arrived in short order and good shape. 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Print. The coaches were an exception and I don't know their prototype. Should I look for metal ones made by IHC or are there other suitable, less expensive options. I have a trio of 2-8-8-2 Mallets. I some times take the Fife Shuttle and deliver Dan's trailer to him there in Fife. Apr 15, 2023 10:00 AM EDT. IIRC, there was even a 60' combine painted in the yellow/green 400 colors. Espee used dark olive which was not Pullman green. HO Scale Athearn HO 84857 50' Old Time Overland Passenger Car Set, Great Northern #1 (4) SKU: ATH-84857. manage your account online and more! I have had an Alco C420 for years and although the detail is not the highest is does run very well. While I've never bought one new, I have quite a few bought off the "used" table at a now long-gone hobbyshop.I think that the detail is decent, although the wheels are undersize, and have flanges which are deeper than most HO scale wheels. The new Rivarossi cars appear to be based on the same C&NW prototypes as the old Walthers cars - full RPOs in the 9413-33 series, baggage cars in various 87xx series, combines in various batches in the 74xx series, and coaches in several groups numbered between 3088 and 3306 (the photos and car listing indicate Rivarossi used accurate numbers on the C&NW cars). They are definitely a cut above the 80 foot AHM era cars. * For similar cars, see also ConCor Heavyweights. Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Passenger Cars, Rivarossi HO Scale Model Railroad Steam Locomotives . I have a run to Spokane Tomorrow, so I may actually get to stop at PF&S, if You talk to Leroy or Sharon, tell them Hi, for me, they will know Me, I am just one of several Truck Drivers that stop there every so often. I just bought them. . Pennsylvania Railroad's 1960s The General -- Deluxe Edition Consist #2 - 13 Cars 920-829 Advanced Reservation Availability: Sold Out Expected: 01-Feb-2024 HO Scale $1,535.00 View Product Add to Wishlist HO Scale WalthersProto Pennsylvania Railroad's 1960s The General -- Deluxe Edition Washington Section - 3 Cars 920-830 Advanced Reservation Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, I eagerly await their arrival. Once there was a time when about 90% of my passenger fleet was the Rivarossi-made, imported by AHM, cars. I am a truck driver, and my company has a resident driver based in Fife. There were short mail cars and combines but few if any short coaches. IHM and AHM are sorta-kinda related, but not exactly. I have a few of those in the IC paint. IMHO, mid-grade. They are generic designs and not specific to any the prototype. JavaScript is disabled. The firstto be run will be the coaches, then a baggage-mail and finally a combine. PRR had so much stuff there may be some hope there. Dimensions: 600mm. Mine were lettered for the Burlington but I removed that and relettered them for my fictional branchline. thanks for your info guys. All have truck mounted horn-hook couplers, and they stay on the track just fine. They have springy diaphrams on the end doors. As mentioned earlier, these were produced by American manufacturer Athearn and remained in the catalog until 1963. The new Rivarossi cars appear to be based on the same C&NW prototypes as the old Walthers cars - full RPOs in the 9413-33 series, baggage cars in various 87xx series, combines in various batches in the 74xx series, and coaches in several groups numbered between 3088 . I've been doing some reading and have learned that most people replace the wheels and or trucks. One baggage, one RPO, one combine and one coach. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, Something went wrong. One of the baggage rpo cars and the duplex sleeper were definitely PRR. Appreciate it.. Body mounting Kadee couplers is doable. About that time, four 60' heavyweight cars (RPO, Baggage, Combine, Coach) all based on CNW prototypes came out. This example shows the very old wheel design used by Rivarossi. There is a newer set of 4 cars that are 60' long. Sold. Rivarossi; Scalextric; Close sub menu. Yes, but even 'pullman green' varied with era, railroad, and weathering. There were also 60 ft heavyweight sets packaged in both the Walthers and Rivarossi labels, the 60' cars came in a wide variety of railroad names as well. We'll follow up with any questions or to make an offer. -- I don't care for stripping cars, but I'll need to before I paint up one in Wabash. I was wondering if the sets offered by Trainworld at $30 were the same, but never got through to staff to find out, the line was always busy. I think you may be right about Hornby (couldn't think of the name).. Athearn, MDC (Roundhouse) are now owned by Horizon, since 2005, I think. been hittin' the bottle a little hard lately? While the cars do have some fairly decent underbody details, I usually add more details there, too. So some bolster modifications are in order (obviously easier to add a shim or washer than to shave away. If you look around Walthers also had a 3 coach set bundled with a passenger set. 99 $8. I painted the red stripe thru the windows using a rattle can. These are based on ATSF cars, but are fairly generic and could be used for many other railroads. This was a problem as the needlepoint axle ends wore into the soft plastic truck sideframes. I bought Walthers lighting kits, which included new trucks with metal wireframes. "Publius Quinctilius Varo - give me back my legions" - Augustus Caesar after Varo lost 3 legions in the Teutoburg Forest, 9AD, Germania.AHM / Rivarossi Instructions - Literature Page 32. It did require shaving away some of the cast on brake shoes but with care you can shave away enough to retain the "look" of the shoes yet let the wheels turn freely. These 60'ers are just the ticket for my smaller layout. 4/14, Lenovo Flex 5 14" FHD Touchscreen 2-in-1 Laptop Ryzen 5-5500U 16GB RAM 512GB SSD, Google - Pixel 6 128GB Unlocked - Very Good, 1959 Mexico Gold 10 Pesos (.2411 oz) - BU, Skullcandy Sesh Evo True Wireless In-Ear Headset-Six colors Certified Refurbish, Lenovo IdeaPad Gaming 3i 15.6" FHD 120Hz i7-12700H 8GB RAM 512GB SSD RTX 3050Ti, Dyson HP02 Pure Hot+Cool Link Connected Air Purifier | Certified Refurbished. There is a newer set of 4 cars that are 60' long. > > So called, "Pullman Green" was the most common color on passenger cars from> the turn of the century until after WWII. I will have a lot more questions soon. I bought a set of these from Trainworld last year and they are beauties. I'm afraid they'll vanish from the marketplace, Modeling the Wabash from Detroit to Montpelier Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, Rivarossi 60' RPO car. A railroad had to be mighty big to get Pullman to specially paint Pullman cars for a specific train. Rivarossi 1920's HWT Passenger Car LACKAWANNA Ho Scale KEVIL. Those coaches look short. But we (my dad and I) went crazy and also bought a 2-8-8-2 and a bunch of other things. And since the "Crescent" is not a part of my railroads, it is a "shelf queen". To my knowledge, neither the ATSF or CB&Q used 60' heavyweight combines orcoaches. Mike. In later years (more the lightweight era) MANY railroads had a colorthey often referred to as "pullman green', and these were often somekind of dark olive green. Over the last 17 years, I've acquired over 100 Rivarossi/IHC/AHM passenger cars which are all pretty similar. Only thing I'd point out is they have body mounted couplers; the coupler boxes do allow for a fair amount of lateral swing, but if you bought them figuring they would work well on tight curves (like 18" radius) you might be disappointed. But it did take on agreenish cast under some weathering and lighting conditions. I'll have to dig up some four-wheel trucks for these. The Rivarossi cars are fairly light, so I add custom-cast lead weights, usually hidden in the washrooms, but I also place them in the car's clerestory roof when necessary.I usually add a few details, such as grabirons and, on baggage cars, sill steps. bear in mind these are the ones made several decades ago and things may have changed since then. I do have Bachman and Proto 72-foot RPO's, but most are 70' and shorter. Detail is decent even by today's standards. I have a couple of these sets and would recommend them highly. This is Rivarossi's postal/express baggage car, altered a bit to better ressemble a CNR prototype. Con-Cor and Rivarossi may well get away with 18". They come with basic interiors, and I've seen three car sets (baggage, 2 coaches) available NIB in the local LHS recently, $50 give or take. Est. Walthers 910-31101 HO scale 60' Thrall Material Handling Car MHC-2 Amtrak #1541. The baggage appears to be a newer heavyweight than the Rivarossiheavyweight baggage and has lines more typical of the 60-foot(+/-)baggage cars which lasted in service into the 1960s and 1970s than theRivarossi model. Its a Red Box 4-8-8-2 cab forward. If you want clerestory roofs, Athearn makes RPO, Baggage and Coach cars that are fullsize and a Diner, Pullman and Obs car that are shortened down to 72' (same length as the Coach, the RPO and Baggage car are shorter). Unless you can nail it down to ONE car on ONE day you'll go NUTS tyingto create 'generic' colors like 'pullman green' that work for allrailroads in all eras and circumstances. There was a later series of cars dating from the late 1980s that were around 60 feet long. Many older CB&Q head end cars were repainted an aluminum color in the 50's and 60's so they would not stand out so prominently when run in trains of fluted-side stainless steel cars. Baggage 60 foot Harriman arch roof: 6029 - Pullman-built 1909 for O&C 6025-6034 series. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Kadee HO Scale AHM/Rivarossi Conversion Coupler, 4-Wheel Brand: Kadee 10 ratings $967 See more About this item Includes highly-detailed pieces. Does anyone know for sure what the prototypes (if any) for these cars are? (what is theera of the cars). Maybe I'l try new wheels and go from there. There is, of course, the possibility of running non-home-road equipmentin many trains, especially sleepers and head-end equipment. Two new Union Pacific streamlined passenger cars of the 1950s have been released by Rivarossi. I have one 2-8-8-2 that has headed up a group of 237 coal cars at a local show. Railway: DB. First(and only)place on the right. A forum community dedicated to model train owners and enthusiasts. They appear to be updates of the 40, The short combine and coaches were used on locals - look at some of the C&NW, > 2) Was the ATSF version [prototype] and the Burlington version, On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:21:44 UTC, "Christian" <. Excellent. The Rivarossi RPO's are 60-footers. Mid-grade? If Shorter passenger cars are your thing, you might also look into ebay (or similar) for some older Athearn Blue Box kits. The 4 car types would rarely have been used together, as the commuter runs did not carry RPOs, and the combines provided sufficient baggage space for the commuter trains. The item "Rivarossi Southern Pacific 60ft Passenger RPO Baggage Coaches Set Of 5 Cars" is in sale since Wednesday, December 28, 2016. $59.95 + $14.82 shipping. The 60' commuter cars were replaced and scrapped as the 85' bi-level cars began being delivered in 1956. Butadd more resistance which may not be a good thing. "I like my Pullman Standards & Budds in Stainless Steel flavors, thank you!". Notes: * In the 50th Anniversary (1988) Rivarossi Catalog a model 9902 3 Pack is also listed. Underbody detail is cast in place, so upgrading that is harder, but hopefully you'll not be viewing them belly-up too often! gauge lines were steel. Login, or register today to interact in our online community, comment on articles, receive our newsletter, I intend to replace the trucks in the long run with the 41-BNO series, which was often found on ACL and Southern Railway Budd units. Thought I'd help the grandnephew with his new layout. Part # 380-505 AHM/Rivarossi 6-Wheel Passenger Truck Conversion Bolsters -- 1 Pair $5. I will send you a PM. Ho RIVAROSSI 4-6-2 " Light Pacific" C.B.&Q #462 BURLINGTON ROUTE Nice! While the models' detailing may match nobody's actual car, the 60 foot length certainly does - for instance, the floor plan I'm looking at right now for L&N "Mail cars 1106 to 1112 including 1114". It was a mixture of lamp black (carbon) and YELLOW. C-415 Build: https://imageshack.com/a/tShC/1, Other builds: https://imageshack.com/my/albums. I'm glad its a steam that I am getting. The Rivarossi combine and coach are supposed to be models of C&NW Chicago area commuter cars, which, of course were generally shorter than intercity cars. i put a few ounces of lead type slugs inside the cars for extra weight. The coaches/combine they modeled appear to be C&NW specific, but maybe we will see other 'old' passenger cars brought out by Walthers. They seem to be a bit scarce now that Walthers doesn't stock them. Their best known cars date from the mid 1960s. From Pasco, go North on US 395 to Mile post 32, turn left (West) on Sagemoor Rd, across the tracks, turn right (north) on Ione Rd. I broke off the brake clasps so the 36" wheels would fit. 8% positiveSeller 99. Between these cars and the upcoming Branchline coaches (actually shown at the RPM meet in Cocoa Beach last weekend! Painted Daylight 1941 for the San Joaquin. I discovered they they meant 18, not 17 3/4, when I checked one flex-track curve. A major reference work for all Rivarossi Collectors, the text. Con Cor advises those interested to enter reserve orders. Again DON'T judge them from the road. On the GN the baggages and RPOs all seem> to have had differing door locations, and the coaches all have> vestibules on BOTH ends.> > They LOOK like nice cars, but where can they, reasonably correctly, be used?> > There is, of course, the possibility of running non-home-road equipment> in many trains, especially sleepers and head-end equipment.> > Dan Mitchell> ==========, These are CNW prototypes, but similar cars were widely used, especially thebaggage and rpo.-- Brian Ehni, You do not have permission to delete messages in this group, Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message, A few quick questions regarding the NEW Rivarossi 60' passenger cars [as, I looked at these cars with interest. The baggage appears to be a newer heavyweight than the Rivarossi heavyweight baggage and has lines more typical of the 60-foot(+/-) baggage cars which lasted in service into the 1960s and 1970s than the Rivarossi model. There is a set of the Riverossi 60' Santa Fe coaches on ebay right now. I do think that you will be very Happy with these, I like mine very much. The ones you're getting are completely different. Sold for $60 4 Bids. HO Scale Baltimore Ohio Royal Blue Passenger Set B - RIVAROSSI 6909, Knuckle Cpl. Rivarossi HO scale Baltimore & Ohio Passenger Car Train B&O # 5501 new $15.00 $9.85 shipping or Best Offer Rivarossi HO Scale Santa Fe Super Chief 1930s Passenger 4 Car Set A NIB 6938 (1) $200.00 $15.00 shipping or Best Offer HO RIVAROSSI RT600036 VISTA DOME ALASKA # 500 $129.99 $7.95 shipping or Best Offer Fortunately, it appears that the Kato and Con-corcorrugated Budd cars are all prototypical, but only the slumbercoachis an identical car common to both lines. * Era starts with repaint to Tri-Color scheme and ends with Amtrak, if not sooner. These classic smooth-side coach and dome-observation cars come ready-to-run with interior details, free-rolling plastic and metal trucks, and magnetic knuckle couplers. Shop from top railroading brands like Centralia Car Shops, Bachmann, Walthers, and Lionel. I believe all of the 'old' Rivarossi (AHM) cars first offered in the 1960s were full 80' length, except for cars (like say the head end cars and heavyweight coaches) where the prototype car was shorter; they weren't 'shorties' like say Athearn passenger cars. All the cars are in their original boxes. Many railroads used these cars or similar ones from the 1900's well into the diesel era. They track well, run in trains mixed with Walthers cars, and roll like skates! The only issue is that with wheels that are 5"bigger in diameter you do tend to raise the car height up a bit. No 96 RAF Blue - Matt 2.69. I run them both straight out of the box with their horn hook couplers, and also heavily detailed and modified to include body mounted Kadee couplers. I bought the NP set in the two tone green. I pretty much agree with what has been said about Rivarossi locomotives so far. The so called "Empire Builder" green on the GNwas of this nature. While I have deep-sixed most of the remaining Rivarossi in exchange for Walthers, Rapido, and BLI, I still have a few cars. Between these cars and the upcoming Branchline coaches (actually shownat the RPM meet in Cocoa Beach last weekend! They appear to be updates of the 40 year old Walthers metal-sided "Shorty" passenger cars. Tender wheels I just replace. Pre-owned. They had no lighting and only a bare set of interior seats. $5 - $ . If you have Rivarossi's 60' Baggage RPO car, THAT one I used Jaybee 110 or 111 coupler pads, Jaybee 36" wheels, and Kaydee #38 couplers were perfect.. A Line weight's brought it to 3 3/4oz. A few photos(photos will enlarge if clicked upon). The two windows flanking the baggage door were taken from Athearn coaches Rivarossi also offered a combine, but it had only three windows on each side, near the car's end (the prototype was used as a "rider car", at the rear of a baggage/express train). Hey Don, thank you VERY much! I am looking to replace the horn and hook couplers that are on the IHC carswith Are the Kato and ConCor Union Pacific passenger cars the same colors? You simply can't go wrong using the best. Hi Jeff. All was fine. Skip to product information. No 60 Scarlet - Matt 2.69. I started in the model train business in 1959 buying die-cast freight car kits from Clarence Menteer at Model Die Casting, painting and . My cars have couplers that are body mounted in extra swing boxes so they can do those curves. You live in Skagit County and are calling FIFE SCENIC? HO Scale Coupler Conversions AHM (Rivarossi) The perfect solution for all of your coupler woes. 30+ years later, I still have all of them in my fleet, now in their 4th or 5th upgrade cycle. While I had the shells off for lighting, I painted the interior and added some passengers. They are much more free rolling, They come with body mounted couplers out of the box (but the set I got were McHenry rather than Kadee). There's one for the heavyweight cars with 6-wheel trucks and another for the lightweight car's with four-wheel trucks. You are using an out of date browser. You must log in or register to reply here. View cart for details. They were very good quality for the 60's and 70's. Yes the flanges were large and ran best on code 100 rail. The GN buffs are still squabbling over these details. Add a couple of traction tires to each of the 8-wheel engines and you have a locomotive that can pull a ton of cars. As doctorwayne has shown, they can be a good starting point and can be made as detailed as you like. In coaches in the 70ft 0in size range is series 2395 to 2399 inclusive where are diagrammed as 60ft 4.5 in interior length, 61ft 2in over end sills, 69ft 0in over platforms, & 70ft 3 and 3/4 inches over buffers. They were kind of spartan when I bought them. Do they use European-style Have some questions about these new "ACF coaches." There were later runs where the wheelsets improved but I still replaced these with Kadee wheels.
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