Alarico, PS. ## Some people like to understand what the precise intent and scope of a Papal action is. I have resolved everything Catholic in my own mind. On 1 March 2012 it became an academy.. It seems that you think you can have your cake and eat it to objectively you cant you have to choose Christ or anti Christ. Its communion with Rome was impaired when the SSPXs leadership consecrated four bishops without the permission of Pope John Paul II in 1988. That he disobeyed a Papal command is no evidence that he did so willingly. Strange as this may sound, this special and unique Year of Mercy for the flock would seem correct only if the Holy See were to admit the errors of Vatican II and the Novus Ordo Missae having led the flock astray for the last 50 years. Archbishop Pozzo said he hopes such circumstances and the creation of a personal prelature will happen soon.. Updated: Please see the Communiqu from the General House of the SSPX, What does the SSPX want to achieve? Read our bi-monthly magazine publication featuring several topics under a common theme. ( I in no way support David Icke or his spiritual views but this video is good in explaining the hegelian dialectic ), I hope the leaders of the SSPX see what is going on here. . It may be a foolish and very unwise command. What I find interesting is that this good news came in the form of a letter to a bishop instead of a formal docuement that would need to be cleared by the theological structurer Card. We are persuaded that we can render no greater service to the Holy Catholic Church, to the Sovereign Pontiff and to posterity. 2) are being accorded a grant of jurisdiction that is to have force for the Jubilee and only during the Jubilee But for this great priest, this giant among missionaries, the Catholic Priesthood might be on its last legs. Pope Francis had previously granted such a faculty for the Year of Mercy, which just ended. It is very simple if Vatican II did not teach errors and heresy then SSPX is in a position of heresy because it rejects some of the teachings of Vatican II otherwise Rome is the one holds heretical positions contradicting the Popes before Vatican II starting with St. Peter. Is there someone behind him pushing for this? On any other subject I suspect you would agree that its not fruitful to draw any deep implications from a statement in this pontificate, formal or off-the-cuff (Who am I to judge?). You keep saying As long as the Pope remains the Pope and he has not commanded anyone to sin, he is to be obeyed. Yes we hear you and I am saying they have in fact asked us to sin by being at least indifferent in matters of religion. Jimmy Akin is a Vatican II new church apologist. I feel some force behind Louies (SSPXs) argument, but in my mind, Mr. Akin is not someone I can safely ignore. In an April 4 statement, the SSPX expressed its deep gratitude to the Holy Father for his decision, adding that it shows the Pope wants to eradicate any doubts about the validity of the sacrament of marriage celebrated by a society priest. A unique religious community within the Church, integrally promoting and preserving the treasures of Catholic tradition around the world, The structure of authority of the SSPX, the practical organization of the members into various divisions and its essential works, The history of the SSPX: a work of God's Providence. Shame on you for praising the scandals of Frances. Huonder who lives at a PiusX school in Wangs, Saint Gall, told FSSPX.ch (September 26) that he went public with this anecdote to reassure people suffering from a "false argument.". What Pope Frances has done will create a PROBLEM (what to do with SSPX marriages and what to do when the year of mercy is over ect) Then the Bishops,the SSPX leaders and the laymen will have a REACTION they will cry out to Rome we have a PROBLEM here (what do we do with this mess the PROBLEM has caused). Jacques Gaillot died in Paris on Wednesday afternoon after a debilitating illness, a source close to the bishop told AFP. Audio: Source: A council CANNOT be called to put the pope on trial.a true pope can be judged by no council. EIN 27-4581132 let alone sinfully. Archbishop Lefebvre, ora pro nobis! This has huge consequences "Pope Francis had wanted a private and informal meeting, without the formality of an official audience. MELTDOWN: Round-Up of Reactions to Francis' Suppression of the Traditional Latin Mass. Through these prayers, may Catholic Tradition regain all its rights in the Church, so that as many souls as possible may benefit and work out their eternal salvation. Is Bergoglio Leading a Synodal Revolution? Click on the link for additional scheduling information, pricing and items to bring with you on a retreat. An Investigation into Alleged Manipulation at the Extraordinary Synod on the Family (Ignatius Press, 2015). Read about who resides there and the administrative functions that are accomplished, See a list of SSPX chapels in the US District: their contact information and Mass schedules, See a list of SSPX schools in the US District: their contact information and the grade levels taught in each school, See a list of Retreat Centers in the US District with addresses and phone numbers. Otherwise, obedience becomes the deadly obedience of the Nuremberg Trials. Prayerful consideration and discernment is needed, The training and support of a Priest. They can turn around and say well we had it anyway. But the Pope, the indisputable head of the Church that SSPX claims to belong to, has made it obvious to the world that he does not believe their claim, and he, the Pope, has the power and the desire to make that right, for the good of the Faithful. Rather, they believe it paves the way to creating a possible canonical structure to allow the society to come into full communion in the future. I obey the Pope in all things which are not sinful. The priest has the power to provide the sacraments to souls for their sanctification, The priest is an instrument of God with a sacramental character enabling him to confer the sacraments, A calling to the priesthood is supernatural and personal. Then the devil and his zionist/masonic/ marxist revolution divided and conquered Tradition with the war between the SSPX and the Resistance. The basis for the grant of validity as given, has always been in existence over the relevant period of time, to date. The Society of Saint Pius X is an international priestly society that promotes the traditional Catholic priesthood and the celebration of the traditional Latin Mass and sacraments, Learn about the District House of the SSPX located in the heart of America. Blessed Robert Grosseteste, Bishop of Lincoln, defied a command of Pope Innocent IV (1243-54) that would have harmed the Church. The Society of St. Pius X was founded in 1970 by the French Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre (1905-91) to preserve the traditional Roman Catholic priesthood and Mass in the wake of the revolutionary Second Vatican Council (1962-65). 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Sometimes the commands appeared unjust, unwise, or even persecutory. Too terrifyingly truthfully Catholic LOL. Men and women join the work of the priests and sanctify themselves in prayer and in multiple apostolic endeavors. You are clearly confused. tufty, . It is impossible to modify profoundly the lex orandi without modifying the lex credendi. Remember a dogma can never be held in doubt and are never open to debate. Read our bi-monthly magazine publication featuring several topics under a common theme. Click on the link for additional scheduling information, pricing and items to bring with you on a retreat. Overall, however, both sides remain optimistic about a resolution, with Ecclesia Dei the more enthusiastic of the two about the prospects. This expression is used in order to prevent misunderstanding of the accusation against the pope. From various quarters, several Brother Bishops have told me of their good faith and sacramental practice, combined however with an uneasy situation from the pastoral standpoint. It continues to offer its services to the Church and to all souls seeking refuge in a most confusing time. Spot on Mr. V. Remember the Frances quote Make a Mess! wow Make a Mess! Sample News Item It is a call to all those who love Holy Mother Church to redouble their prayers for the ending of this crisis which has so worsened under the pontificate of Pope Francis. I am so sick of unprincipled churchmen and laymen in these matters. Although canonically-irregular, the SSPX (Society of Pope St. Pius X) founded by Archbishop Lefebvre (above picture) in the 1970s, is not schismatic. . 50 years later and we still are unsure exactly what Vatican II demands us to hold as its dogmas. Men and women join the work of the priests and sanctify themselves in prayer and in multiple apostolic endeavors. The Foreign Mission Trust Magazine is the platform for all Society missions to present the work they do in their part of the world. - A man of the Church, missionary, founder of the SSPX - a man who helped preserve the tradition of the Church after Vatican II, The SSPX: its view on the current situation of the Church and its unique answer on how to "Restore all things in Christ", Learn more about the SSPX! The reason Trads dont understand this is because they believed the hoax of a return to Tradition that was Pope Benedict XVI. If the SSPX are Catholic in Dogma and doctrine it has been a great injustice that the authorities have abused their power and withheld jurisdiction from them what Frances did yesterday would then be a great scandal and a greater injustice because he did not apologize. This is a long war in 1988 the zionist/masonic/ marxist revolution divided and conquered Tradition with the creation of the FSSP and the other approved traitor groups. This Jubilee Year of Mercy excludes no one. So what was the point of this offer? Another obstacle, one the society readily admits, is whether it can maintain a united front. SSPX: Ten Years Of Pope Francis. The Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria was established by Saint Mark, an apostle and evangelist and the writer of St. Mark gospel, in the middle of the 1st century (approximately AD 42) The word 'Copt' is derived from the Pharaonic word 'gypt' and the subsequent Greek word 'Aigyptus' meaning 'Egypt'. The Faith is far more important than the Papacy the Papacy, or rather the Petrine function that is at its heart, exists for the good of the Church and the Faith; not they, for the good of the Papacy. This we shall do until such time that the true light of Tradition dissipates the darkness obscuring the sky of Eternal Rome. What you are suggesting is available. Edward is the author of The Next Pope: The Leading Cardinal Candidates (Sophia Institute Press, 2020) and The Rigging of a Vatican Synod? I think they never showed their hands on this issue. . http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/60a66ff1af3e03e6c68b8fb5e6992ce9-436.html. He is to be obeyed in all matters of faith and morals.. Opinions differ over whether now is a prudent time to be regularized, although the general consensus is that most will accept the prelature proposal. The new mass is evil. He is to be obeyed in all matters of faith and morals. Not only is one not bound to obey anything that emanates from the Holy See that opposed Faith and morals but one is positively bound to denounce and reject same. The Society of Saint Pius X is an international priestly society that promotes the traditional Catholic priesthood and the celebration of the traditional Latin Mass and sacraments, Learn about the District House of the SSPX located in the heart of America. Im going to respond to some of the things that have been said/asked. Today we're speaking with Fr.William MacGillivray on a topic that has gained renewed attention. The latest news and events around parishes and schools. The real issues are the doctrine and the new mass. In a letter to Secretary of State Lloyd Austin, Rep. Chris Smith, R-New Jersey, who is Catholic, accused the administration of having a lack of consideration to service members religious needs and rights at the military medical center. If he wishes to enact a law, he must give the intended law legal forms that make its meaning and force impossible to mistake. Name: This is the church's legal name as given by the Church Commissioners. Unfortunately, reason and logic are in short supply when it comes to so many in Catholic Media in respect of the Pope, or the SSPX. Dear rcaamo, that is the last thing the heretical modernists, who are in the majority, would want! https://youtu.be/ByduP27FAD8 via @YouTube. See our Communiquefrom that announcement in September, 2015. As far as I have always known, we are to obey the true pope always when he speaks for the universal Church.to denounce his words, when those words are set forth as part of the magisterium, is surely a mortal sin. We are really dealing with two religions here. Corrupt the Faith or the Church, and the Popes lose all claim on the obedience and reverence of Catholics. Feb 24. I very seriously doubt if anyone could make me aware of anything which this or any Pope since Vatican II has said or done, not in keeping with Tradition, which I do not already know and then some ie. tufty, When I said I am bound by Christs words to Peter, I was referring to these: The school has a joint sixth form with two other Catholic secondary schools in the borough: Gunnersbury Boys' School and the mixed St Mark's Catholic School. No one in authority has accused the Pope of heresy or of any other wrong doing. For those who are not aware, Card. This is not an illegitimate enquiry. For the pastoral benefit of these faithful, and trusting in the good will of their priests to strive with Gods help for the recovery of full communion with the Catholic Church, I have personally decided to extend this faculty beyond the Jubilee Year, until further provisions are made, lest anyone ever be deprived of the sacramental sign of reconciliation through the Churchs pardon.". Modernism & neo modernism is toxic to souls. Rather than declare that the SSPX priests can not validly or legitimately hear confessions; therefore, avoid them. These events manifest a deepening of the Passion that the Church has been undergoing since the Second Vatican Council, a new swelling of the waves rocking the Barque of Peter. Even if, from some POVs, it seems illogical to suppose that the Societys priests have jurisdiction to hear confessions and absolve from sins during the Jubilee, but lack or may lack this jurisdiction at other times. Many times obedience to lawful authority is the test. All of this confusion comes down simply to the profession of faith. We would then have the ability to debate the particular dogmas which are held in doubt. First, there has not been any official Vatican document declaring the SSPX to be in schism (as even Voris admits), thus no formal schism. The present action by the HF is not expressed in language that shows that the Pope intends to resolve a disputed question: in the present case, whether the priests of the Society have jurisdiction to absolve in everyday circumstances. Check back often to discover the latest information. From that perspective, this move by the pope (lower case 'p') is not about how the mass is performed. Cardinal Mller, said one, is more open to solutions than before and now seeing us more as allies than enemies.. Bishop Williamson knew something about events of yesterday and he gave us a heads up last week. That is why, without any spirit of rebellion, bitterness or resentment, we pursue our work of forming priests, with the timeless Magisterium as our guide. In those earlier times Akin would have been saying the same kinds of things about St. Athanasius as he does about the SSPX. Read about the District development and exhortations from the superior himself. The new Apostolic Letter, Misericordia et Misera, has just been released. See the Denzinger-Bergoglio website for a list of just some of the statements and repeated assertions (backed up by actions) of the Pope that are in opposition to the Deposit of Faith (and even the Natural Moral Law). Lets imagine that solutions are not found to recover full communion with the priests and superiors of the Fraternity.. Maybe Our Lord has not entirely abandoned Rome but is laying before us a very crooked path. Art 1. The Pope is at the service of a unity greater than his own authority. catholicnewsagency. He also extended permissions to the SSPX priests in case no diocesan priest is available. the blue? Catholics need to stop going to the new mass and the modernist approved Latin Masses . Yeah he is still dad but they are right to run! In the meantime, motivated by the need to respond to the good of these faithful, through my own disposition, I establish that those who during the Holy Year of Mercy approach these priests of the Fraternity of St Pius X to celebrate the Sacrament of Reconciliation shall validly and licitly receive the absolution of their sins says a lot less than the headline does. Papal authority is circumscribed by the function of the Papacy, and it is immoral to let the Pope commit a crime against the Church unresisted. Catholics need to stop going to the new mass. I say a distinction needs to be made between when the rightful superiors are sodomite heretics or Catholics. I have spoke to Jimmy Akin on the phone he is clearly a nice calm mam. All of them strive to promote the Kingdom of Christ and the sanctification of the souls. If the Pope requires the Mass to be Protestantised, to obey him is out of the question. He needs far more prayer (which might actually do good) than criticism (which, since he is most unlikely to know of it, will very likely do little or no good, and may do the critic harm). Priests will be required to say both "Ordinary Form and Extraordinary Form" or suffer canonical difficulties. It lasted 40 minutes and took place under a cordial atmosphere," the SSPX stated. Prayerful consideration and discernment is needed, The training and support of a Priest. Vatican II never postulated any dogma as it was a pastoral council, not a Dogmatic Council as all other previous were. It will be supplied by the Church in response to the state of necessity, just as the Society has been telling us all along; a state of necessity that has just been confirmed by Pope Francis himself. This is according to sources both inside the Vatican and the priestly fraternity who, in April 6 comments to the Register, said that the Popes decision, made in a March 27 letter to the SSPX and publicized April 4, is not a sign of acceleration toward an agreement. Sure, a true pope is human and can make mistakes, but what true pope has ever been obstinate in his error? Nonetheless, the Roman Missal promulgated by St. Pius V and reissued by Bl. the Holy Spirit. The SSPX Brothers were established by Archbishop Lefebvre to support the work of the Priesthood, The SSPX Sisters was established by Mother Marie-Gabriel Lefebvre to support the work of the Priesthood, The importance of living in Catholic society among the priests and faithful in the unity of our Catholic Faith, The priest - an ordained mediator between God and man. brilliant !!! Pope Francis, according to catholicregister.org, also approved provisions to allow the SSPX to celebrate valid marriages at Nuptial Masses by allowing bishops to send diocesan priests to assist hear the vows of the couple while the SSPX priest celebrates Mass. Then the Bishops,the SSPX, and the laymen will have a REACTION they will cry out we have a PROBLEM here (what do we do with this mess the problem caused) Then comes the SOLUTION phase which is what the zionist/masonic/ marxist revolution intends the swallowing up of the SSPX into Vatican II new Church. We can call him a material heretic but have no authority to kick him out of his Office of Peter a council has to be called to show he is a heretic the he lose his office. Find the most up-to-date statements from the Superior General, District Superior of the Society of Saint Pius X. have settled the question by granting this permission. ## With all possible respect, it does not. And if we keep silent those who are weak in faith might actually believe Francis interpretation and deny Christ divinity. But he also said the fraternity must be able to fully safeguard its spiritual, disciplinary, theological and pastoral identity, which will come through the development of its particular legal statutes necessary for the creation of a personal prelature a proposed canonical structure, similar to that of Opus Dei, which would enable the fraternity to operate within a Catholic diocese. So if I say I agree with Pope Francis doctrine that atheist go to heaven too even if they do not convert then I am denying the teaching of all the popes before Vatican II, starting with Pope St. Peter. These concessions are above all for the benefit of the faithful who habitually attend the pastoral activities of the Society so as to guarantee the validity of confessions and marriages. Papal acts can at times be the decisive proof that a disputed course of action is in accord with the Faith an excellent example of this is that in 1502 Alexander VI settled for good the much-disputed question of whether the Pope had the authority to permit a man to marry his deceased brothers wife; the Pope settled and was judged to have settled the question by granting this permission. Though we can not judge Francis interior but from its fruits we know what he did in no way from the wisdom of the Holy Spirit. This is the second of these initiatives; its another piece of candy, said a Vatican official close to the discussions. It would have been spectacular for the Pope in this year of mercy to have accepted the unfortunate situation totally and granted the SPPX recognition until the issues are worked out. To the Novus Ordo Missae correspond a new catechism, a new priesthood, new seminaries, a charismatic Pentecostal Church all things opposed to orthodoxy and the perennial teaching of the Church. The only title the Popes have to the obedience and reverence of Catholics, comes from what the Faith & the Church teach about the Papacy. I am also bound to respect his office. No authority, not even the highest in the hierarchy, can force us to abandon or diminish our Catholic faith, so clearly expressed and professed by the Churchs Magisterium for nineteen centuries. Prayerful consideration and discernment is needed, The training and support of a Priest. I would be interested in hearing what BP Williamson has to say concerning this letter to the SSPX. At the beginning of his pontificate, during the World Youth Day on Copacabana Beach in 2013, Pope Francis exhorted the youth to "Hagan lio!" or "Make a mess!" Dear Reader, In the ten years since that event, the Pope himself has caused a staggering amount of chaos in the Church by seemingly ignoring its doctrinal and moral patrimony. Read about the District development and exhortations from the superior himself. NB: The justification for insisting upon this jurisdiction, supplied extraordinarily by the Church, is the state of necessity., Pope Francis, in his letter concerning the Year of Mercy, invoked the very same justification; namely, the need to respond to the good of these faithful., Some might argue that the jurisdiction granted by the pope in this letter is specific to that period of time defined as during the Holy Year of Mercy.. I go to the Latin Mass at various places. The latest news and events around parishes and schools. All those who disrespect the Pope and his Office are committing a sin. as in RIGHT NOW, and all these 40+ years, the priests of the SSPX HAVE NOT validly and licitly dispensed, and ARE NOT currently validly and licitly dispensing the sacrament of penance! Who put What in The Water Supply for The Residents of The Warehouse In Detroit, to consume? His dignity and mission in the salvation of souls. No one may judge the Pope. Jimmy Akin is a nice dangerous man. The most significant breakthrough since Summorum came in 2017, when Pope Francis recognized the ability of SSPX priests to witness marriages. The Christ they teach and believe in is the cosmic Christ of Teilhard De Chardin. The Vaticans insistence on the SSPX adhering to the Councils teaching appears unchanged: Archbishop Pozzo told the Register that in order to achieve full reconciliation, the superior general of the SSPX, currently Swiss Bishop Bernard Fellay, must sign the doctrinal declaration that the Holy See has asked the fraternity to accept. That is what the SSPX does the FSSP & the modernist approved Latin Mass groups are getting raped and endangering their salvation and the that of the laymen under them from the spiritual AIDS the FSSP & the modernist approved Latin Mass groups have caught from the Pope and the Bishops. A publication reflecting 40 years of restoring all things in Christ. Donor money being used to defend pedophiles A former adherent of the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) is urging the group to start fundraising for victims of SSPX sex abuse. Yes the crisis is that bad. The Foreign Mission Trust Magazine is the platform for all Society missions to present the work they do in their part of the world. All of them strive to promote the Kingdom of Christ and the sanctification of the souls. Pope Francis was born on 17 December 1936 in Flores, a neighborhood of Buenos Aires. If there is one experience that unites us as a human family, it is suffering. when people say no one judge the Pope that means formally because the Pope is the supreme pastor, but we are obligated to judge everything objectively. IMO, unless he does something that is clearly wrong, we should be wary of criticising him. In the July 16, 2021 motu proprio Traditionis custodes, Pope Francis affirms that the Mass of Paul VI is "the unique expression of the lex orandi [the law of prayer] of the Roman rite." As such, he authorizes himself to drastically restrict the freedom to . I am sure he will put this latest misstep by Francis to good use. Can the Pope just declare one out of A publication reflecting 40 years of restoring all things in Christ. Those words of the HF seem to fit best with interpretations (2) or (5). . Obedience to the Pope is not and cannot be absolute, because Popes are capable of abusing their authority. It may work to the benefit of the Church and the society in particular in the long run, but its just another case of Im the Pope, I am, and I can do and say what I want.. I think the Popes letter was a brilliant tactical maneuver. Jimmy Akin is a nice man. What is clear, is that the Pope, who has full authority to do so both legal and moral is over-riding any canonical deficiencies in the exercise of the Societys priests, that may arise from their lack of incardination in the dioceses in which they exercise the priestly ministry to absolve from the guilt of sin. 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